Leadership Podcast

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My boss is a jerk. These are words that most of us have uttered at least a few times throughout our lifetime.

Maybe not out loud. Perhaps just whispered under our breath.

And, possibly for the most retrained and upright among us, we’ve never audibly said those words…but certainly they floated around in our mind.

The problem now is, as leaders, that we’re the boss…which would make us the jerk.

Yet, are we really a jerk? Or are we being falsely accused as we simply do our job as a strong leader?

Join Michael and Jim as they explore this topic in great detail, sharing insights that might drastically change the way you act and are perceived as a leader.

Somebody has to be the adult around here. So why does it always have to be you? Because you’re the leader.

It’s true. As a leader, you don’t get to jump in the puddles, fling yourself off of the swing set and make stuff out of Playdoh like your employees get to do. 

You have to be serious. You have to be the responsible one. You have to always pick up the tab.

It can be a great burden. Yet, it can also be a true blessing.

Join Michael and Jim in this fun episode that highlights the frustrations and joys of being a leader.

There exists a species of followers that flat out aren’t good at following. And, they aren’t good at following because they aren’t the least bit interested in following you.

They have their own plans, their own initiatives and their own motivations. And, the last thing they have time for…is following you.

Why? Because they are cats. They are fellow leaders. They are free spirits with clear minds of their own.

These cats are independent, and are mostly interested in doing exactly what THEY want to do. Rarely, does that include participating in your vision, mission or even short-term goals.

But…you’ve got to lead them none-the-less. So what you do?

Join Michael and Jim in this purr-fectly enjoyable and important episode as they explain how to master the art of herding cats.

No one wants to follow a weak leader…or even a strong leader who is experiencing an off day.

And, if you’re a weak leader, or in a moment of weakness, you will take your entire team down with you.

But, on any given day, in any particular moment, how do you know if you’re being a strong or a weak leader?

What if there was an analysis tool out there where you could get plugged into it and it would output a detailed report?

Actually there is a rapid test. And, it doesn’t require any special technology or equipment.

Join Michael and Jim as they share a simple question that instantly reveals the strength of a leader.

Being an entrepreneur or founder of an organization isn’t easy. It’s long hours, high expectations and typically slow-to-arrive awards.

Obstacles are constantly appearing out of nowhere, and the storms of life seem to camp out on your doorstep.

Yet, consistently, probably the most prevalent issue for organizational leaders is this: Fixing The Money Problem.

You’re running out money, and quickly. This puts a leader in a point of desperation that holds the real risk of compromising your integrity, and destroying your circle of family and friends.

What do you do? For the answer, join Michael and Jim in this critically important episode.

The mature entrepreneur knows the tremendous value in being prepared, having your team ready and staying ahead of the schedule.

And, being able to deliver what you promised on time and beyond expectations.

Yet…there are those times…

When things don’t quite work out that way. Sometimes they don’t work out that way at all.

In fact, on occasion, you or someone on your team drops the ball…big time. Now, there is potential pie on your face, and your plan is flapping in the wind. There is only one thing left for you to do.

You’re going to have to wing it.

Join Michael and Jim as they share details about one of the least often discussed, yet very important leadership skills. 

With politics…you only need 51% of your constituents to like you, and the rest, “Who cares?”

Yet, in the business world, it’s pretty difficult leading an organization when you’ve got only a slim majority of support. You’ve got to hope you’re garnishing more votes than 51% or it’s going to be a tough haul.

The challenge is; however, as a leader, sometimes you’ve got to make decisions that have much less support than that. On occasion, you’re the only one who sees things a certain way.

And, if it’s the right decision, you’ve got to make it anyway. This can make you quite unpopular.

Join Michael and Jim as they discuss strategies during these stressful leadership moments to be able to win the unpopularity contest.

In this, the 100th episode of the Two Are Gathered Leadership Podcast, a topic is covered that is worthy of such a significant milestone in the journey.

It is something that is seldom discussed in leadership training, books or podcasts,

Yet, it’s perhaps the most important. 

It’s the heavy, heavy burden of leadership. The serious and grave responsibilities that few people talk about in regards to leadership roles.

And, in addition to being a heavy burden, it’s also the tremendous opportunity of leadership. How leaders respond in this area will ultimately separate the good ones from the great ones.

Join Michael and Jim in this century mark special edition of the podcast.

It’s been said that speaking is the highest paid profession in business. But, this isn’t necessarily true.

Yes. Leaders with the capability to speak before large audiences and in creative and compelling ways have only the sky as their limit in their ability to succeed.

But, there is an even more valuable skill set for leaders than speaking. And, that skill is listening.

You won’t be a good speaker if you don’t listen to and understand your audience. You won’t be a good leader if you are not an exceptional listener.

Join Michael and Jim in this important episode as they share advanced listening techniques for entrepreneurs. 

For those of us who have been leaders or business owners for any length of time, you are quite aware of this sad truth…and that is, you’re going to spend a lot of time at the Leadership Heartbreak Hotel.

As entrepreneurs, we’re risk takers. This is exactly what we’ve signed up for. If you’re going to reach for glory, you’re going have to gamble with your heart.

You can’t say, “I’m going to put my heart into this project,” without actually putting your heart on the line. The currency you’re investing is both financial…and emotional.

So, what do you do when your leadership heart breaks?

Join Michael and Jim in this powerful discussion explaining how to mend up the heartbreak wounds and get back on your feet again.

Leadership is about motivation, perseverance, adrenaline, rising above the challenge, reaching a higher level…boldly going where no one has gone before…and then…there are those days…

…when you just don’t feel like doing anything.

Some of the things that need doing, aren’t all that fun to get done. And, your head might be in the gray clouds, in a depressed mindset where nothing is enjoyable to do.

But, you still need to get things done. Your team is counting on you.

And, being able to be productive even when you just don’t feel like it, is a skill leaders need in order to succeed.

Join Michael and Jim as they share how to get the most sunshine out of those cloudy days.

We all have those people in life, those true leaders, who when we have an important decision to make…we will go to them. They are our trusted advisor.

They are someone we respect. They are someone we trust. 

In many ways, it’s hard to imagine going through life without these people. They have so much influence on our achievements.

In business, one could argue that being a trusted advisor is a necessity in being successful as a leader of an organization.

Can you learn to be a trusted advisor? Absolutely.

Join Michael and Jim as they dive deep into the topic of what it takes to be a trusted advisor.

As a leader…all of the world is a stage. You’re the lead player, and more than anyone in your organization, you are in the spotlight…for better and for worse.

Unfortunately, for many of us, the worst parts of our personalities can draw the most attention, and often do.  

We’re having to make difficult decisions under constant pressure, and because of this we can crack, and in the process really embarrass ourselves in front of our team.

If this occurs frequently and we don’t handle our mistakes properly, our company culture can devolve rapidly and will become dysfunctional. 

Join Michael and Jim as they reveal their struggles in this area, and provide key insights into overcoming this common leadership issue. 

There are those times on the high wire when it comes to being a leader, when it feels like you’re walking between skyscrapers, and your knees are feeling shaky, and the winds are howling around you.

Then, glancing far, far below, you see a crowd…and you can see it in their eyes…they are thinking: “That guy’s going to fall!”

It’s actually a state of mind, a visceral, psychological event that leaders and entrepreneurs go through, and there is a highly technical term for it…it’s called, starting a business.

Or…launching a new product line, overcoming a crisis, saving the organization…the list goes on and on.

Join Michael and Jim as they share how to work through those times when it seems as if no one believes in you, including yourself. 

Business leaders are often faced with a challenging decision when it comes to the crossroads of uncertainty: should I hit the brakes, or should I accelerate?

We’ve all been in that situation on the road. We’re driving along at a nice, even pace. In the distance, everything is clear, and there is a green light on the traffic signal.

Yet, suddenly, the light turns yellow, and we’re faced with a decision. So too, is the case when it comes to your business.

Is the wise choice to hit the brakes and to slow everything down? Or will it be better to step on the accelerator and ride through it with momentum?

Join Michael and Jim as they explore this important topic in detail.

Leaders, have you ever felt this way: Your mind is spinning, your blood pressure is rising, the problems are many, and the solutions are few?

The walls are closing in all around you and the heat is clearly on. So what do you need to do?

You need to take a break.

It may seem completely counter-intuitive and some would say impossible during times like these…but taking a mental break…even when there is madness all around you…is not optional…it’s essential. 

But, how do you do it without falling further and hopelessly behind?

Join Michael and Jim as they share leadership strategies for taking a break. 

There are many different ways of deconstructing the elements of success in business.

Yet perhaps, if you were to best break it down, you could say that success comes from a series of many, many right decisions.

So if we believe the premise, that success in being entrepreneur comes from making more significant right decisions, than wrong ones, then the pathway to victory now becomes a discipline of learning how to make right decisions.

But, can you actually learn how to make the right decisions?

Absolutely, and join Michael and Jim in this episode to learn how.


There will come these times in the leadership journey when you and your organization hit a briar patch, a thorny place where the tires get stuck in the mud and the battery is not starting.

It’s not what you planned…it’s not what you hoped for…but it’s dark outside, it’s starting to rain…and your team is looking at you for the solution.

What is clear is a response is needed. In this moment, you may not have a clue what to do. But, that doesn’t change the fact that everyone is counting on you and expecting some magic.

Which means, it’s time for you to pull some rabbits out of your leadership hat.

Join Michael and Jim as they shed light on one of the least talked about, but perhaps most important leadership skill.

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